Official Bleach Discussion Thread

[GraveHorizon]

So now the word has 3 interpretative meanings. Cool.

[Βyakuya]

Well chapter 414 supposed to come out around today. But the episode of Barragan vs Hachigen was very dramatic.

[RickiMinaj]

[spoiler=Bleach Spoiler about Gin]

Cover pic is Gin in a bamboo thicket wearing a white kimono and taking off a fox mask.

The text says, “You are this world. I am nirvana. If it’s true then I’ll rely on you.”

Gin returns. He’s asked about Rangiku and he says he killed her.

“Certainly her reiatsu has disappeared,” says Aizen. “I thought you had a bit more regard for her.”

“I am a snake, cold blooded, unfeeling, searching for prey with the tip of the tongue, swallowing whole whomever I please.”

As he says this he passes by Aizen. During this time Tatsuki and the others try to get far away.

Aizen says he’s tired of catching mice. He’ll kill them and hang them where they can be easily seen from outside the area, and then begin creating the king’s key.

“Then I’ll kill those kids.” Gin draws his sword and restrains Aizen’s sword.

Then using his own clothes for a blindfold, he stabs Aizen through the chest with his own sword.

“The only way to escape Kyouka Suigetsu is to touch the sword before perfect hypnotism is invoked. It took decades to learn that.

Since nobody in the Gotei 13 knew of that, it was thrilling to feel that I could kill you, that the only one who could kill you was me.”

As Aizen extracts the sword blood rushes out. “I knew that you targeted me, so I brought you along. I was fascinated at why you targeted my life.

But this is not enough to kill me.” Gin looks down at his sword. He shows a part of his blade where a portion is missing. He says he left that portion inside Aizen.

“I was lying when I explained my ability before. It doesn’t extend as long as I said. And it’s not as fast as I said, either.

Only that when it expands and contracts for an instant it becomes dust. Furthermore, inside the blade is a deadly poison that dissolves the cells.

When the sword was retracted after piercing you, I left a fragment of dust inside of you, Captain.

And so he puts his hand on Aizen’s chest. “Die! God Killing Lance” “Gin….you bastard…!!” says Aizen.

“A hole will open up in your chest and you’ll die. That is my long cherished ambition.” As he says this the fragment inside Aizen begins to dissolve. Until next chapter.

 

 

[Flame Dragon]

Why did Gin do that? Really, it doesn't add up. I remember reading that Kubo wants to end this arc, but doesn't know how, and it's becoming clear that this is true.

[Manjoume Thunder]

Well, the last 15 (?) chapters have been named Deicide and Gin's zanpakatou is called God-Killing Spear. I thought that it was obvious hat gin will try to kill Aizen.

[SushiTheLegend]

I thought it was plain lolz. Gin obviously wants the power for himself.

[Βyakuya]

That was really cold blooded for Gin. As with Tosen and his ways of "injustice", I don't understand the ways of why Gin turned his back on Soul Society and Rangiku.

[Phantom Roxas]

Why did Gin do that? Really, it doesn't add up. I remember reading that Kubo wants to end this arc, but doesn't know how, and it's becoming clear that this is true.

That's because he's the Starscream.

[hexcalibrate]

i think he is just afraid of aizens power and what he did to soul society so he planned this recently

[Βyakuya]

So looking at the spoilers, I knew Gin was going to turn his back on Aizen. We may have a hope after all...

[Umbra]

Off-topic: YES I CAN POST.

 

Ontopic: I don't think this was a desperate rush. Gin has been hesitant to fight from the start, always chillin' in the background. Maybe cutting Hiyori in half was a way to spare her from a worse fate. He knew that the Shinigami still had capable healers, and he had most likely sensed Unohana's reiatsu by then. He's telling everyone to stay away because he knows that he's the only one who can defeat Aizen. I don't think Rangiku's dead; given that Gin is actually against Aizen, he most likely incapacitated her and then hid her reiatsu.

 

What impresses me most about Gin is that he figured out how Kyouka Suigetsu works - and that Aizen may not be immune to it at all.

[Βyakuya]

Well of course not. From what you are saying, he was maybe plotting this. He just had to sacrifice everything ever since he was a child....but it was quite smart for Gin. Kyouka Suigetsu has the main object that creates hypnotism that disables and tricks the senses into thinking into most things, and when it is released, the truth is revealed. But if Gin would immediately attack Kyouka Suigetsu before doing anything else, that would be Aizen's weakness. But its still kinda creepy he's smiling all the time, like something was always behind him.

[Umbra]

Well of course not. From what you are saying, he was maybe plotting this. He just had to sacrifice everything ever since he was a child....but it was quite smart for Gin. Kyouka Suigetsu has the main object that creates hypnotism that disables and tricks the senses into thinking into most things, and when it is released, the truth is revealed. But if Gin would immediately attack Kyouka Suigetsu before doing anything else, that would be Aizen's weakness. But its still kinda creepy he's smiling all the time, like something was always behind him.

 

What does Gin "sacrifice", exactly? He is still an enemy of Soul Society; however, he doesn't know how to forge the Ouken, I'm fairly sure of that. He's got Matsumoto, pretty much the only one who still respects him to some degree apart from the fanbase, and doesn't care much about other things.

 

Wait a minute. He didn't attack Hiyori to spare her. He did it the same reason he had to incapacitate Matsumoto; to keep his cover. Now, I'm sure that he allowed Ichigo to parry his attacks, only to not reveal Kamishini no Yari's real ability.

 

Kyouka Suigetsu is ineffective against anyone who holds its handle; therefore, Aizen is always unaffected, and now so is Gin. It would appear that this cancels out all previous times you've seen the release.

 

[spoiler=Oh, and this:]

The word you're looking for is "FATALITY".

 

 

[Flame Dragon]

http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/41423749/1

 

It's out. I really wish more had happened. And yea it was a good chapter, but WHY!

[Βyakuya]

*applauds to Gin* Yes! I knew there was still a heart left! So Gin says his bankai actually stretches very far, but turns to dust and extends at another point at high speed. At that time, a fragment of Gin's Shinsou from the dust has a cell that contains a poison that break down the surroundings. Maybe there is hope for Ichigo and his friends....they just have to have a way to defeat Aizen.

[fenrir]

...And Gin reclaims his position as my favorite character.

[Felix]

Ha, Gin you sick guy!! I can't imagine that his intentions were to betray Aizen for the Gotei 13, it's probably slightly more conceited than that. Anyway, the question now is, what is aizen going to do (specifically to himself and then gin)?

[RickiMinaj]

‎"Your going to die with a hole in your chest. Isn't that your long cherished ambition?" ~ Gin Ichimaru

 

You gotta love him :3

 

And him lying about his Bankai! I KNEW IT! i was talking about this with my friend (I'm a nerd >.<) and she agreed completely. xD

[Phantom Roxas]

...And Gin reclaims his position as my favorite character.

 

Oh yeah. Totally pwning Godzen is definitely worth awesomeness in my book.

[Umbra]

Gin's line on the opening page pretty much confirms that Matsumoto's alive. However, those last words confuse me. Aizen wanted to become a Hollow?

[Βyakuya]

No. Gin stabbed Aizen with Kamishini no Yari. Then the broken chip in the middle of his chest will break away at Aizen inside of him cutting away what was left of him and hsall leave a hole in his chest, sorta unlike holows, but a little similar. And of course Rangiku wasn't killed by Gin. We didn't really know since it switched scenes.

 

As a side note, Kubo is forgetting about renji, Rukia, Chad, Kenpachi, and Byakuya fighting Yammy in his second ressureccion. He skipped a lot of chapters for that, and I'm hoping it will appear later on.

[hexcalibrate]

could it be that gin is actually under complete hypnosis and aizen is less trusting than he already seems and he fooled gin.

[Βyakuya]

If he was in complete hypnosis, Gin would have been tricked, but he attacked Kyouka Suigetsu at a distance from where Aien wasn't looking and stopped the hypnosis. Aizen would do that, but he was too late since he was caught off guard and was betrayed by Gin.

[hexcalibrate]

didn't you see the look in his eye's his question about his emotion's, he was nowhere near of gaurd.

[Βyakuya]

Well we will look forward to that in the next chapter. Gin was the only one who new Kyouka Suigetsu's secret, so Aizen wouldn't activate it if he new Gin would turn back on him.