Official Bleach Discussion Thread

[rhstanley3]

relation of rangiku and gin was established waaaaaaaay in the beggining of the series. I forget which episode it was, but you see rangiku sleeping with Gin, during the whole rukia-is-going-to-die-hogyoku-arc before they cause hell. Gin gets up and leaves in his captains cloak, but rangiku is still hiding under the sheets...

[Umbra]

[spoiler=To clarify...]

Hichigo and Zangetsu are now going to fight Ichigo. Zangetsu's not subjugating Hichigo, as I first thought.

Rangiku appears in the Real Karakura Town, and says: "I made it... Aizen... Gin". That single "I made it", makes me believe that she is going to switch sides.

Don Kanonji attacks Aizen's face. He is now the single most awesome character in the series.

 

 

[rhstanley3]

lol... pwn

[Phantom Roxas]

No, I think Rangiku's "I made it" refers to her being able to either beat Gin or somehow have him become good.

 

Shirosaki-Zangetsu is awesome because he's a Hollow/Zanpakuto fusion.

[Flame Dragon]

relation of rangiku and gin was established waaaaaaaay in the beggining of the series. I forget which episode it was' date=' but you see rangiku sleeping with Gin, during the whole rukia-is-going-to-die-hogyoku-arc before they cause hell. Gin gets up and leaves in his captains cloak, but rangiku is still hiding under the sheets...

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They never slept together. Gin save a young Rangiku and since then have been friends.

 

I want to know why it's taking so long with the chapters. Normally at least 1 of the big 3 is out by now. I hate waiting.

[Umbra]

No' date=' I think Rangiku's "I made it" refers to her being able to either beat Gin or somehow have him become good.

 

Shirosaki-Zangetsu is awesome because he's a Hollow/Zanpakuto fusion.

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I read "I made it" as in "I got here before Ichigo". Remember the last time a female character who was seemingly knocked out suddenly got to her feet and started walking?

 

It did not end well.

 

The one image I have seen of Shirogetsu does indeed look awesome.

[Phantom Roxas]

I want to know why it's taking so long with the chapters. Normally at least 1 of the big 3 is out by now. I hate waiting.

 

Even Fairy Tail is late' date=' but their schedule has been pretty inconsistent anyway.

 

I read "I made it" as in "I got here before Ichigo". Remember the last time a female character who was seemingly knocked out suddenly got to her feet and started walking?

 

It did not end well.

 

Loly?

[Umbra]

I read "I made it" as in "I got here before Ichigo". Remember the last time a female character who was seemingly knocked out suddenly got to her feet and started walking?

 

It did not end well.

 

Loly?

 

Hinamori. Yes, it was an illusion, but still.

[Flame Dragon]

I want to know why it's taking so long with the chapters. Normally at least 1 of the big 3 is out by now. I hate waiting.

 

Even Fairy Tail is late' date=' but their schedule has been pretty inconsistent anyway.

 

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Well normally Fairy Tail comes out Tuesday while the big 3 come out Wednesday. While the times varies thats the basic pattern.

 

The one image I have seen of Shirogetsu does indeed look awesome.

Mind sharing the pic?

[Umbra]

The one image I have seen of Shirogetsu does indeed look awesome.

Mind sharing the pic?

 

Here ya go.

[Flame Dragon]

http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/91213640/2

 

New chapter is out. Site is having some loading problems for me so it might take a while to read.

 

Shirogetsu doesn't look as bad ass as I'd hoped. Still bad ass though.

I think Rangiku's "I made it" was that she made it in time to save Don.

[Umbra]

[spoiler=Key points of 411]

Shirogetsu being formed.

DON KANONJI

Rangiku blocks Kanonji's spirit-hook-thing. If there's any doubt she's switched sides, it's all gone now.

 

 

[Flame Dragon]

[spoiler=Key points of 411]

Rangiku blocks Kanonji's spirit-hook-thing. If there's any doubt she's switched sides' date=' it's all gone now.

 

 

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It could be she was trying to save Don

 

 

[Phantom Roxas]

Eh, I still think she did it because she knew Don would probably get killed anyway.

[Umbra]

[spoiler=Key points of 411]

Rangiku blocks Kanonji's spirit-hook-thing. If there's any doubt she's switched sides' date=' it's all gone now.

 

 

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It could be she was trying to save Don

 

 

 

 

There aren't other, less complicated ways for her to do that? She's kinda proficient in Kidou; a binding spell would be far more sufficient for that. Even a shunpo-powered tackle would be more useful. But purposely injuring yourself to save someone you've never met before?

 

Does that sound like Matsumoto - or anyone at all - to you? She isn't Lawful Stupid by any means, why would she do that?

 

 

[Βyakuya]

So it finally came. The fusion of Hollow Ichigo and young Zangetsu looks very cool. And, it seems in this episode Don Kanonji acts a lot like Hercule in the Majin Buu series, with Tatsuki and Gin's face looking priceless! Finally, Rangiku shows up and that's it I guess..

[NeoDemonX]

The new chapter is so awesome with the fusion of 2 epic characters and Don Kanonji attack Aizen even thought he knows he is going to die.

[TotalFlake]

[spoiler=Key points of 411]

Rangiku blocks Kanonji's spirit-hook-thing. If there's any doubt she's switched sides' date=' it's all gone now.

 

 

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It could be she was trying to save Don

 

 

 

 

There aren't other, less complicated ways for her to do that? She's kinda proficient in Kidou; a binding spell would be far more sufficient for that. Even a shunpo-powered tackle would be more useful. But purposely injuring yourself to save someone you've never met before?

 

Does that sound like Matsumoto - or anyone at all - to you? She isn't Lawful Stupid by any means, why would she do that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's Kubo; he never does the smart, normal thing to do. Instead, a surprise is how he does his series.

[Phantom Roxas]

Yes, because taking advantage of being in a place that runs on an entirely different frame of time to learn a new ability isn't smart.

[Flame Dragon]

[spoiler=Key points of 411]

Rangiku blocks Kanonji's spirit-hook-thing. If there's any doubt she's switched sides' date=' it's all gone now.

 

 

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It could be she was trying to save Don

 

 

 

 

There aren't other, less complicated ways for her to do that? She's kinda proficient in Kidou; a binding spell would be far more sufficient for that. Even a shunpo-powered tackle would be more useful. But purposely injuring yourself to save someone you've never met before?

 

Does that sound like Matsumoto - or anyone at all - to you? She isn't Lawful Stupid by any means, why would she do that?

 

 

 

 

It's not made clear how she stopped Don. And what makes you think she was hurt? She looks fine when you do get a good look at her.

 

Her reason for helping them is because it's her job to protect the town and the people in it.

 

 

[rhstanley3]

it's quite simple... she jumped in, and stopped kanonji's attack, because duh, he'd have died from that. She's not switching sides... if she were, she would have done so a long time ago. She's had plenty of chances to, so no, she's protecting Kanonji

[Umbra]

[spoiler=Key points of 411]

Rangiku blocks Kanonji's spirit-hook-thing. If there's any doubt she's switched sides' date=' it's all gone now.

 

 

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It could be she was trying to save Don

 

 

 

 

There aren't other, less complicated ways for her to do that? She's kinda proficient in Kidou; a binding spell would be far more sufficient for that. Even a shunpo-powered tackle would be more useful. But purposely injuring yourself to save someone you've never met before?

 

Does that sound like Matsumoto - or anyone at all - to you? She isn't Lawful Stupid by any means, why would she do that?

 

 

 

 

It's not made clear how she stopped Don. And what makes you think she was hurt? She looks fine when you do get a good look at her.

 

Her reason for helping them is because it's her job to protect the town and the people in it.

 

 

 

 

It looks blatantly obvious to me. She either grabbed the thing or took the blow.

 

Kira told us she was hurt, remember? "Your injuries haven't healed yet" or the like. Remember, this is the same Rangiku that got most of her intestines ripped out.

 

Rangiku siding with Aizen also explains exactly how Aizen knew Ichigo was getting a new power. She saw Ichigo and Isshin in the Dangai, Ichigo doing Ginzen, and conveyed the message to Aizen.

 

 

 

What makes you think she didn't switch sides ages ago? Everything up until now could've been an act. Aizen could have use of a person on the inside - who better than a person still loyal to her old captain?

[rhstanley3]

true, true, but Aizen doesn't need that. He could have just as easily left Tousen, or Gin as a spy. Who better than someone of captain class? who has exclusive information to the battle plans, where as a LT only has limited access. and for the record, gin isn't her captain T_T Also, aizen has told ichigo that everything that has ever happened in ichigo's life from the moment rukia appeared has been his plan, has been his doing, and has gone exactly as he wanted it to. He has predicted all of ichigo's actions with success, despite ulqiora being oblivious to this and stating that everything ichigo has done being unexpected. It's not to far fetched to say that aizen knew that ichigo would now learn a new technique in an attempt to combat aizen.

[Umbra]

true' date=' true, but Aizen doesn't need that. He could have just as easily left Tousen, or Gin as a spy. Who better than someone of captain class? who has exclusive information to the battle plans, where as a LT only has limited access. and for the record, gin isn't her captain T_T Also, aizen has told ichigo that everything that has ever happened in ichigo's life from the moment rukia appeared has been his plan, has been his doing, and has gone exactly as he wanted it to. He has predicted all of ichigo's actions with success, despite ulqiora being oblivious to this and stating that everything ichigo has done being unexpected. It's not to far fetched to say that aizen knew that ichigo would now learn a new technique in an attempt to combat aizen.

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The Tousen that had fought Kenpachi?

The Gin that he made everyone believe was the villain?

Or the Rangiku that no one suspects?

 

My bad on that. Regardless, she's loyal to Gin.

 

It's even less far-fetched to believe my theory, and it provides more concrete evidence. I'm sick of everyone who goes "It's Aizen, he plans everything and knows the future" because he doesn't.

[rhstanley3]

true that, true that. but tousen fought kenpachi, yes? I think you're forgetting that kenpachi had gone rogue, and not the other way around. Tousen was still "on the side of the 13 court gaurd squads." his cover wasn't blown, so he had no need to give up his position as a captain if aizen wanted a spy. And i don't think that aizen is all knowing. i think that he has correctly predicted that ichigo would learn a new technique, but he is going to misjudge this and brush it off. It's quite easy to determine one's actions if one knows the personality of another. Behavioral patterns, if you will. so Aizen has assumed that isshin will teach ichigo a new technique in order to attempt to defeat aizen.