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I predict Yuzu and Karin' date=' double-Zangetsu-style vs Aizen. Yuzu's would be a dagger or a short-sword, as her spiritual power is weak at best.

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That sounds like a filler to me. And I do NOT want a filler, in the manga. That would just . . . just . . . just be wrong. A manga with fillers? Is there such an evil?

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It's filler because the girl Kurosaki are fighting Aizen? It can't be because they're weaker than him; if that's the case, everything since Chapter 392 has been a filler.

 

And you can't honestly say that Ichigo and Isshin having FOREVER to train isn't filler-tastic.

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I predict Yuzu and Karin' date=' double-Zangetsu-style vs Aizen. Yuzu's would be a dagger or a short-sword, as her spiritual power is weak at best.

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That sounds like a filler to me. And I do NOT want a filler, in the manga. That would just . . . just . . . just be wrong. A manga with fillers? Is there such an evil?

 

LOL!

 

But i agree with you. We cannot allow such evil reign. :D

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[spoiler=BLEACH 408 SPOILER]In the Dangai, as if in meditation, Ichigo is conversing with his sword. Then suddenly, from the back, Isshin looks like he attacks, but Ichigo parries him off.

It’s because I have to parry, that I can’t get into the heart of the sword. I can’t talk to him, he yells.

How can I stay calm like this, I don’t know how. I don’t know if I can’t try again, says Ichigo.

Then it flashbacks a little to “I’ll be able to teach you here” and continues from there.

And then, Isshin explains.

In the Dangai, space is multiplied and overlaps, that the streams of time flow around it.

In short, inside the Dangai, the density of time compared to outside is overwhelmingly high. If he had to use a number, it would be 2000-fold.

 

In the olden times, a pathway through the Dangai to the real world would be like going through a penal colony.

If you got caught by currents, it was certain death, if you were chased by the Koutotsu, time twists so that you end up straying far from the real time.

It’s just like the first time Ichigo and his friends went into SS, where they miscalculated the number of days.

That’s why, with the Koutotsu gone, the Dangai is a favorable training place. They can have up to 2000 hours of training while not an hour would’ve passed outside.

SS forbids the sealing of the Koutotsu, but they had the means to stop the seizing currents.

Then, 4 things like throwing knives (each with a rope attached, and then something like a bracelet, ) from the seizing current drives through a chest.

Showing off such a bracelet on his own wrist, Isshin continues explaining.

This is the set boundary of the world, originally it would take but ten of the shinigami to for a special method to halt the seizing current, but it’s possible for only one to do so, I can use up all my reiatsu to shut down the seizing current, then end up weakened for about 3 months before I can be asked to do it again.

Ask you to do what? retorts Ichigo. Yeah, the truth of your sword’s final form of Getsuga Tenshou! Then the flashback ends.

 

Isshin is still explaining to a meditating Ichigo.

The form of this meditation is “the dialogue with the sword”, which has taken thousand of years being refined by SS.

Up til now, your technique at it is pretty much useless.

Before this, you’ll have no choice but to walk the same path that thousands before you have already done.

Inside Karakura in SS.

Keigo’s been running around the people fallen by the streets, the street signals and cars are all stopped. He shouts and cries, looking for anyone who could hear him, until something hits him.

What hits him is Tatsuki. He’s happy, but the usual High tensioned Keigo gets told to shut up by Tatsuki.

Tatsuki carries the fainted Chizuru and (Ogawa?) to school.

On the way, Tatsuki tells Keigo about what she knew.

I knew it! Ichigo was involved?, says Keigo in confirmation. Who else was involved? He asks.

Well, it’s probably Ichigo’s fault, somehow it involves Ichigo… well, he’s that guy.. continues Tatsuki.

Aizen and Gin enters the town. SS is unsuitable to such scenery, says Aizen as they look it over.

The meditation looks like a success, so Ichigo enters Zangetsu’s world. Be careful, this Zangetsu will be violent… warns Isshin.

 

TO be continued.

 

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I have a feeling that they'll be pulling a DBZ on us. Like during when Vegeta and Trunks were training in the Hyperbolic time chamber or whatever. He comes out with long hair' date=' better strength and power. Ichigo will change, too XD

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After reading the latest chapter, it DID becoming more and more like DBZ with that Precipice World's stop-time management. Next time we might be seeing a space invader that can destroyed the Soul Society and Ichigo and Shinigami troops will be battling them in their home planet minus the 7 Dragon Balls. *shivers*

 

Ichigo needs long hair. The longer you hair' date=' the more powerful you are. Just look at the captains, ichigo with his horned mask and aizen's current form.

 

[b']Long Hair = Power! Accept it peoples![/b]

 

Notes: Abarai Renji is pretty much weak even though he has a long hair.

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I have a feeling that they'll be pulling a DBZ on us. Like during when Vegeta and Trunks were training in the Hyperbolic time chamber or whatever. He comes out with long hair' date=' better strength and power. Ichigo will change, too XD

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After reading the latest chapter, it DID becoming more and more like DBZ with that Precipice World's stop-time management. Next time we might be seeing a space invader that can destroyed the Soul Society and Ichigo and Shinigami troops will be battling them in their home planet minus the 7 Dragon Balls. *shivers*

 

Ichigo needs long hair. The longer you hair' date=' the more powerful you are. Just look at the captains, ichigo with his horned mask and aizen's current form.

 

[b']Long Hair = Power! Accept it peoples![/b]

 

Notes: Abarai Renji is pretty much weak even though he has a long hair.

 

That's because he ties it up.

 

His sexiness level increases by over 9000 when he lets it hang loose.

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THEORY BASED ON 408

 

The Dangai isn't an "in-between dimension", but a completely different dimension in itself. Soul Society has also been shown to have a different "time density". Remember what Rukia said in the first chapter: "Despite my appearance, I have lived ten of your lives!" Therefore, time goes ten times slower in Soul Society compared to the real world. Barragan's Respira creates a zone with an extremely low time density, accelerating the flow of time.

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Is Bleach really doing the Hyperbolic Time Chamber thing? Really?

Anyway, disregarding used material, I think it will be interesting to see the "Final Getsuga Tenshou" and more of Zangetsu. Ichigo really needed to work on being more of a Shinigami and less of a Hollow.This seems more like a transition chapter than anything, so I can't wait for the next one

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THEORY BASED ON 408

 

The Dangai isn't an "in-between dimension"' date=' but a completely different dimension in itself. Soul Society has also been shown to have a different "time density". Remember what Rukia said in the first chapter: "Despite my appearance, I have lived ten of your lives!" Therefore, time goes ten times slower in Soul Society compared to the real world. Barragan's Respira creates a zone with an extremely low time density, accelerating the flow of time.

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It could also be that as a soul she, and others in Soul Society, just ages slower.

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Is Bleach really doing the Hyperbolic Time Chamber thing? Really?

Anyway' date=' disregarding used material, I think it will be interesting to see the "Final Getsuga Tenshou" and more of Zangetsu. Ichigo really needed to work on being more of a Shinigami and less of a Hollow.This seems more like a transition chapter than anything, so I can't wait for the next one

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Well, its not really a training area, but a world made of dense particles of other universes, which are piled up and slow time in that connecting dimension. Without the Prepice World, there would be no place to store any and connect the worlds. The Dangai cleanses the prepice world, to expand it to fit all purposes of time. Now that Aizen has destroyed it, space and time are even more slowing in the Prepice World, to make great raining to last for a couple minutes in Soul Society or the Real World. They may have the point of the training, but Kubo may be up to something...

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THEORY BASED ON 408

 

The Dangai isn't an "in-between dimension"' date=' but a completely different dimension in itself. Soul Society has also been shown to have a different "time density". Remember what Rukia said in the first chapter: "Despite my appearance, I have lived ten of your lives!" Therefore, time goes ten times slower in Soul Society compared to the real world. Barragan's Respira creates a zone with an extremely low time density, accelerating the flow of time.

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It could also be that as a soul she, and others in Soul Society, just ages slower.

 

You do realize that nothing in my theory contradicts what you just said, I hope. They age slower because time goes slower.

 

EDIT: I just now watched the episode, and wholyshiftBarraganIsStillAwesome.

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I thought that souls don't even age. They stay in the age and form of when they had died. Maybe souls that were born there from other souls can age, but souls brought in there from the world of the living don't. They just stay the same age and form.

 

Maybe they can use their spiritual power to slow down their aging, and so once you become a soul reaper, you have to learn to master that skill. Like how Captains have to learn to master controlling the size of their swords. *Spoiler to those who don't know this part, yet* As seen in the episode against the Grand Fisher when he goes against Isshin.

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I thought that souls don't even age. They stay in the age and form of when they had died. Maybe souls that were born there from other souls can age' date=' but souls brought in there from the world of the living don't. They just stay the same age and form.

 

Maybe they can use their spiritual power to slow down their aging, and so once you become a soul reaper, you have to learn to master that skill. Like how Captains have to learn to master controlling the size of their swords. *Spoiler to those who don't know this part, yet* As seen in the episode against the Grand Fisher when he goes against Isshin.

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We've seen both Byakuya and Gin as children; can't remember if it was in TBTP or some unrelated flashback, but we do know they have aged.

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From what's above? Where do you think shinigami/Rukongai citizens go when they die?

 

If a normal guy dies, they are a whole, and are sent to the Soul Society to live on. Then if some evil like Aizen came and killed them, where do they go? The only other place known would be hell, as in where that episode when Schreecher the hollow went when he died because he's very bad. Thus, it was replaced by Hueco Mundo.

 

Any idea?

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I thought (even though it was a filler) someone said when someone in the Soul Society dies, they are absorbed in-to the Soul Society. Their power is used. I'm guessing that it's correct that they can use their power to slow down and/ or stop aging. That does make sense, though.

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